1829-1832
Gloucestershire Archives TS/125
Outgoing letters from Brimscombe Port May 1829-Dec 1832
Enclosing half cash notes £50. Remainder by coach the same day
Enclosed usual weekly papers and cash. Expect pay Mr Robinson for land at Wallbridge for enlarging wharf, commenced this day, and materials for repair of tunnel.
Regarding cargoes of oats.
Agreed reduction of tonnage on oats passing along canal from Wallbridge to any place below Radcot Bridge.
Shipping 400 tons Face Stone Blocks for Oxford for repairing or adding to one of the Colleges. In great hopes this will benefit stone trade by becoming a monument of reference.
The Boat ‘Ann’ seized under Act of Parliament relating to the Canal. Has the name ‘Thomas Rees Worcester’ painted on her but liability under the Act has no relevance as to whom she may belong. Rees can fully explain the reason of her detention.
Details (including sketch) of order for iron chain slings and shears.
Messrs. Chalie & Richards to be paid £53 9s for wine (ordered for the use of the Committee)
Preparations under way for repair of tunnel.
Mr Jones has return of the Ague but assured of speedy cure with proper attention.
Mr Jones much better & I hope will be sufficiently recovered to enable him to attend to the repairs of the Tunnel at the proper period.
Have given necessary direction for repair of fences belonging to T&S Company.
Repairs to Tunnel to commence on 27th but Canal from River Thames & W&B Canal will continue navigable to Cirencester with only occasional stoppages.
Fences mentioned do not belong to the Company.
Difference in mode of charging tonnage on coals on W&B Canal, obliged to know if plan now being adopted is to charge on short weights.
Tunnel repairs to start. Every wharf amply supplied with coal, salt, etc. Messrs. Lucy & Son have forwarded all oats they propose sending to Oxford previous to approaching harvest. Trade tended to open eyes of Bristol dealers as previously used Wilts & Berks Canal.
Messrs. Lucy & Co. not had any wheat as back carriage owing to foreign corn imported to London being much cheaper.
Improvements to Wallbridge Wharf continue and repairs to various locks to start immediately.
No defect noted in side wall of Tunnel below top water level of summit nor any inverted arch or common pitching.
Received through Mr Lane an order of Committee to make out statement of articles carried along Canal each half year.
Rain fallen in torrents since Saturday impeding work on Tunnel.
Invitation received from Glocester & Berkley Canal Co. to dine with Stroud & T&S Committee on 30 Sep at 4 o’clock.
Discussion regarding difficulties of getting there and visiting the tunnel.
Invitation to dine with Gloucester & Berkeley Canal Committee at King’s Head Inn, Gloucester. T&S Committee invites Hopegood to join them on preceding evening to conduct any requisite business & then proceed by boat following day to Gloucester.
Increase in water in Tunnel become very troublesome to the various repairs.
Details & list of principal traders on the Canal notified of completion of repairs in Tunnel, namely: Joseph Watts, Stroud; Parker, Witney; W. Crawford Junr., Abingdon; William Jordan, Park Street Wharf, Worcester; R. Ryman, Lechlade; Burchell, Grittenham; Dunsford, Swindon; S. & W. Hopkins, Oxford; Mark Hale, Grove nr. Wantage; Atherton & Vincent, Simmington Wharf nr Melksham; Whitworth Esq., Calne; Hiskins, Lynham nr Melksham; Messrs. Strange & Co., Swindon; Messrs. P. E. Co., Lydney; Messrs. D. Davis & Co., Lydney; Messrs. Protheroe & Co., Bristol; Messrs. Rouch & Co., Bristol; Messrs. Cornick & Co., Bristol; Messrs. W. Sheppard & Co., Bristol; Messrs. Price & Washbourn, Gloucester; Messrs. Barnes & Co., Buscot.
To avoid as much as possible any obstruction in boats passing the Tunnel, propose allowing boats from Brimscombe 5 hours to go through & from the other end only 3 instead of 4 hours the large Boats being always loaded from Brimscombe would then have no excuse & the same on their return when they are generally empty or nearly so & it does not appear reasonable that a loaded Boat should have more time than an empty one.
Mr Franklin called to say he had seen Mr Parker and agreed the proposal to give loaded boats an extra hour to pass through the Tunnel.
Mr Dunsford has consented to charge only one shilling a ton on stone and 2/6 per ton on heavy articles for the whole length of their canal from the T&S to Abingdon on condition we do same.
Talk of the Land Carriers, Taunce and Bayliss starting Fly Boats immediately against Parker & Franklin.
Enclosed payment due to Dean & Chapter of Bristol for rent of Land taken into use for T&S Canal Navigation.
Papers sent by yesterday’s coach to prevent possibility of their being too late for General Assembly.
Detailed description of plans to repair Tunnel, including due to swelling of the marl resulting in inverting arching in some places, with quantities and cost of materials needed.
Order of General Assembly to reduce tonnage to one shilling on stone from Brimscombe Port to Reading and beyond. And to reduce to 2s 6d on commodities including, Tallow, Raw Sugar, Soap, London Porter, Lead, Pitch of Tar, Woad, Oil, Fuller’s Earth, Pipe Clay, Dye Woods, Pig and Bar Iron, Gross Iron Castings, Tin & Tin Plates, Cider in Casks from Brimscombe Port to W&B Canal & vice versa. Provided the goods are transported by Boats regularly employed in conveying merchandize between London and Gloucester.
Considerable quantities of grain moving along canal in various directions. Coal trade not as brisk as usual.
By return of vessels for last week it seems the coal trade is beginning to move. Frost for the last night or two will likely put the traders on the alert.
Had to put the Engine to work to keep up water supply in the Summit level for boats to navigate at their full depth. Much alarmed by report that portion of Tunnel had fallen in & totally stopped navigation. On inspection turned out to be a stone of about ½ ton slipped from its bed into bottom which with aid of some tackle belonging to vessels detained at the Coates end was removed in few hours. Enclosed a Fly Boat circular. Very little increase in quantity of goods carried at present.
Details of tonnage on Oats from Gloucester and all Grain carried in boats whose preceding cargo was coal or merchandize passing through T&S Canal, etc.
Fluctuating state of Corn trade likely to prove beneficial to Canal we are now conveying Oats & Foreign Wheat Eastward & Barley Beans Peas & English Wheat Westward. Most heavy stocks of Coals on the wharfs at Brimscombe deposited during late stoppage now removed further along Canal & down Thames to meet demand in case of frost.
I never “did charge or offer” at the rates stated. Mr Lucy applied for reduction of tonnage on Oats from Gloucester to Oxford & stated likely to load back vessels with Corn to supply of their mills at Stratford & Birmingham. Being informed such Corn would be charged at only 3s a ton, less than half parliamentary rate, he was perfectly satisfied. This was mistake. Full rate for Corn is 3s per ton per mile.
Object the Company had in mind when induced to lower their tonnage on heavy articles was to enable carriers to convey lighter articles with them, paying to both parties a higher rate.
Mr George’s boat Ann, T. Sisom, leaves this day with 395 Sacks of Oats for Oxford.
Received a letter from Mr Parker wishing me to second a proposal to charge only 2s 6d a ton on all articles. Consideration of carriage of marble to London. Mr George most proper person to convey it to Brimscombe Port having vessels at Bullo Pill adjoining the works almost daily.
Called on Messrs Ridler & Butt in Gloucester, Tallow & Soap Merchants alluded to as having encouraged the Fly Boat trade. Fly Boat trade in its infancy & done little to increase tonnage on Canal but system of reshipping at Brimscombe must be abolished & ought to be abolished at Abingdon.
Following paragraph from Gloucester Journal of 19 Dec: It is in contemplation to form a Canal to connect the Oxford Canal with that of Worcester and Stratford & to name the new branch the London & Birmingham Junction Canal the expense is estimated by Mr Telford at less than £500,000. Such a scheme likely to interfere with interests of T&S Canal and several others.
Met Mr Parker at Cirencester & discussed Fly conveyances & arranged for the boats to continue their voyages to Gloucester instead of shifting their goods at Brimscombe as currently. Discussion as to charges.
Canal totally stopped with ice & likely to continue.
If present thaw continues intend starting one of Ice Boats to the Tunnel & through tomorrow where you to take charge & continue ice breaking until Canal is passable to Inglesham. No expense to be spared to achieve this. When all danger over, Ice boats to be put into perfect order for future season.
Commenced ice breaking but progress likely to be slow due to thickness of ice which must be very considerable in the upper levels, being 6 inches in some of the levels in this valley. Charge made by Mr Parker of inconvenience and delay to Fly Boats by the ice in T&S Canal while other canals remained navigable is not well founded.
Impracticable to break ice beyond Siddington. Every exertion being used to do away with present obstruction
Account of water taken from River Churn for supply of the Canal during last year and part of present for the payment of which the customary order should be passed at the next Committee Meeting.
Sales of coal bear no comparison with those known during similar frosts which can be attributed to general depressed state of everything. I shall not lose a moment in opening the Canal when practicable.
Change in weather with appearance of thaw will make another trial to open Canal affected as far as Tunnel, ice 9 inches thick. Frost of last night completely sealed over all our labours and must await another change in weather. Much worse off on Wilts and Berks Canal, not having a ton of coals on their whole line. Reading also quite destitute of coal and at Oxford dealers intended raising their price from 1s 3d to 3s per cwt.
Stocks on wharfs on T&S Canal decreasing rapidly due to what may be termed a Foreign trade.
Inform the terms on which you propose allowing Salt and Coal to pass the T&S Canal to Wantage on same charges as to Abingdon.
Frost severer than during the Season and all attempts to open Canal abortive. All wharfs on Canal above Brimscombe, except Cricklade and Kempsford, are destitute of coal. Same on Thames except at Radcot Wharf and Cirencester dealers have started fetching supplies from Brimscombe in wagons.
Going to Cirencester to pay Churn Millers and arrange about ice breaking for the last time I hope this Season.
Details of Stock of Timber at Brimscombe (including Oak, deal and African Teak) Oak for repairs, deal for repairing Lock Gates, African timber for used for planking ships, though doubtful of its durability when constantly wet and dry, as in Lock Gates, indeed never seen any foreign timber of Oak species equal to good English for such purposes, but not sufficiently acquainted with it to give a decided opinion.
Details of reply from Mr Dunsford regarding terms on which Salt and Coal allowed on Wilts and Berks Canal to Wantage in event the T&S Co. agree to place such articles on same footing as to Abingdon.
Fully expect canal to be navigable throughout by tomorrow night. Fly Boats which have been frozen up started today.
Committee is desirous of meeting any proposition for mutual advantage of the two concerns.
Every exertion to get supply of Coals along Canal but will require little time before business regular owing to vessels being frozen in various situations & the consequent necessity of sending forward those usually employed to this place only. And present week is neap tides so none can arrive from Bullo Pill.
May satisfy Committee to know T&S Canal was opened many days before most other canals, and in some instances before they had commenced breaking the ice.
Difference of opinion as to terms of proposed reduction of tolls on Salt and Coals to Wantage.
Unless Mr Curtis Junior brings me a guarantee from the parish he belongs to for the payment of half the rent of the Cottage, & another from some respectable person for the residue, he cannot be allowed to become the Tenant; as I would rather the place was unoccupied than have any trouble respecting the rent.
Mr Dunsford not written, presume he has made his application to the Committee direct.
Details of tonnage on Salt on various Canals.
Detail regarding Churn Water and the Mills and reference to disputes with Mr Gordon, Earls Bathurst and St German and other proprietors injured or destroyed.
If I understand Messrs Perrys Ideas correctly we should by adopting their plans have opponents much more formidable than Mr Gordon in the persons of Earls Bathurst & St Germans beside many other proprietors of property which would visably be much injured …
Detailed discussion of tonnage rates and trade in Coal and Salt between Gloucester and London and proposals affecting the trade, including Mr Dunsford’s application.
I gave your Mr Salmon an order for 4 pieces of Timber … under a positive engagement on his part to select 4 Clean prime pieces pointing out most particularly to him that unless they were so they would be perfectly useless for the purpose required … I have just got the last of the 4 pieces from the pit & I think taking them together such a lot of trash never left a respectable yard … not the way accustomed to conduct business for this Company & request Mr Salmon be instructed not to call here.
Intention of Ministers will cause temporary stagnation to Barley trade through the Canal. Mr Watts of Stroud sent orders to Abingdon to resell all he purchased in that part of Country.
Accident occurred last week on Stroud Canal. Will very materially lessen T&S dividend in Apr. A pair of the lower gates of one of the locks knocked completely down by two small Canal Boats running against them. About a month to reinstate them. Been with Mr Hawker and offered any assistance in Carpenters, etc.
Note received from Mrs Jones requesting defer journey to Wharf as Mr C. Jones very ill and nearly blind.
Canal likely to soon feel effects of present extraordinary dry season &, unless soon have considerable quantity of rain, the springs will have receded too far to derive any benefit.
From 6 Apr will open account for any tonnage arising from passing of your Boats along T&S Canal and will give necessary directions to the different Wharfingers along the line.
One of Mr Palker’s Boats here loading stone.
When arrangements made with Mr Parker I doubted possibility of men working large Boats through the Tunnel in 5 hours instead of 7. … it is the opinion of persons perfectly disinterested that it is not possible for 4 men (& more cannot work) to heave a full sized loaded Boat thro’ in the time allowed … Generally other navigators have given way to the Fly Boats. New regulations not being Bye Laws are not enforceable.
Thoughts about a passing place or two in the Tunnel, though likely only to be of occasional benefit.
Sending Mr Hale’s boats back – loaded with Lime Coal, the rakings from the Bullo Block Coal. Your boats have 22 tons each.
In my agreement with Mr Lucy, we took 36 pounds as the average weight for bushel measure of oats. But oats sold by weight not measure results in discrepancies where weight varies from the average.
Mr Chamberlain delivered bill for assessed taxes for 1829 for Chesterton Tithing for which supplementary charge of £4 10s made with no explanation. Request for particulars.
Surprised by your advertisement in Gloucester Journal of stoppages on Thames & Severn. No such stoppages contemplated. Stroudwater Navigation Co. propose doing some repairs but as they possess a name I must request you will correct the error you have fallen into.
Intended calling in but left London 3 days earlier than expected. Respecting interview with Mr Harding he was desirous of disposing of the stone of this Country by Commission but no stone to offer him nor by what any is to find its way into the London Market. The quarrymen here not possessed of any capital and not infrequently Company obliged to advance money to raise the stone. Mr Harding would be an acquisition to anyone embarking in the trade but unless furnished with the stone it amounts to nothing.
Proceedings as fast as possible with crane for Cirencester Wharf. Hope the Fly Boats will keep it constantly in motion.
Stroud Co. have another stoppage for 10 days to put new aqueduct at Ebley, Mr Ames advertised it as stoppage of T&S Canal.
Evidently an error with respect to Lechlade – the Coal trade at that place not having been in Company’s hands for several years. Neither do they pay anyone there as Agent or Clerk. What trifling tonnage arises there is received by Mr Shugas who does it gratis. Company may be liable but no one else acting for the Company. No wish to evade taxes but my duty to ensure Company not pay more than its due.
Tonnage rate for Coke is three pence per ton per mile. To promote a back carriage trade only charge per ton for any distance exceeding 12 miles if brought in boats whose immediate preceding voyage was coal or merchandise passing this Canal. No Coke ever housed at this place but delivered straight to Foundries situated near Stroud.
Stroud Canal to be stopped for repairs for 10 days in which time propose taking advantage to do what is possible between this place (Brimscombe) and Wallbridge.
The falling off in goods etc principally in Stone and Slates for which there has been little demand for last 2 years through the canal.
Considerable quantities in Staffordshire Coals have passed along Canal in last and present month into Wilts and Berks for supply of Wantage, Abingdon, etc brought via Birmingham and Worcester Canal. Oxford Canal Co. with view to regaining trade have recently allowed a further drawback.
Since the frost trade been tolerably brisk but likely to be middling through summer as most of wharfs fully stocked.
Committee orders Jones to ascertain water depth at Siddington; how much would cost to raise water level at summit; survey a line of feeder from the Coln to Canal and rough estimate of expense of cutting it and expense of land to be purchased; and whether sufficiency of water from river to meet needs of canal without injury to the various Mills or the River.
Still complaints that aqueduct not water tight. Want something effectual done during the stoppage..
Canal from Brimscombe to Thames will continue navigable during Stroud Canal stoppage but will erect pair of new Lock Gates and do any necessary work possible between here and Stroud.
Are you aware that by the powers of the Original Act the Company cannot take water from any stream exceeding the distance of 2000 yards from the Canal …
Heavy rains raised Summit level sufficiently high to enable services of the Engine to be dispensed with as well as purchasing water from the Churn.
Trade on Canal becoming very slack owing to wharfs being fully stocked with Coals. Many of vessels already out of employ and more must share same fate with approach of winter. Canal well supplied with water due to late rains.
Thank you to forward by Stroud Galley as early as you can chain for a Crane manufactured with the very best Iron.
Ongoing grievance regarding tax assessment.
Mr Denyer being unable to write himself, from having experienced a severe spasmodic attack … From survey of Mr Jones appears feeder from river Coln into T&S Canal at bottom of four locks at Siddington must commence between uppermost and second mill on that stream, thereby depriving mills of water together with tract of irrigate meadows. Not infrequent disputes between mill owners and occupiers of meadows respecting diversion of water, assumes not always enough water in river. Company likely therefore to need to compensate.
Likely distance of feeder is 14 miles, passing through one village and possibly some cottages and several plantations. Likely cost of proposed feeder £5640 but impossible to estimate additional costs not least because several streams, turnpike, and other roads to cross. And cannot bring water to canal from more than 2000 yards away.
Regarding erecting crane at Siddington, proposed site on land owned by Earl Bathurst.
From supply of water to wells in area it is presumed there is plenty of water at no great distance below surface but not known if sufficient for full supply of engine. Owners of property in district likely to have grounds for complaint and the Dock Act prohibits taking water that otherwise might flow through mills the property of Earl St. Germans.
Mr Denyer, altho’ at present is unwell, hopes in a day or two to recover his usual health.
Late very heavy weather result in some expense due to sand and mud, etc, brought by torrents down tributary streams as well as several slips in the towing path, all to be reinstated as soon as possible. It is truly lamentable that with a Canal overflowing with water there should be so little trade as we have at present.
Skinner was supplied with proper certificates for the Salt on board his and Wickson’s Boats with directions from myself as to the use to be made of them.
Company does not contemplate Boats’ previous voyage of cargo being confined to specific place or article but that the allowance was to encourage freight generally at same time guarding against such stone coming into contact with other paying more to Canal.
At Lechlade the flood, in places, was eighteen inches upon the towing path of the Thames. Summer ricks of hay covered with water, many acres entirely swept away, but not observe any material damage to works or banks of Canal
Cook to look at the tickets from Brimscombe and at the Boats as several lots of Ash Timber been taken on board after clearing out here and no notice taken of them.
Stroud Co. not able to put off their stoppage due to arrangements made with Mill owners whose mills would be interfered with during repair work. Not able to fix precise period when T&S repairs possible because needed at the place where the County ditch which divides Gloucestershire & Wiltshire empties into the Canal and now overflowing with water as result of late rains. But will do minor repairs needed, with least interruption to navigation by using longest neap tides for doing the work. To consider advantage of all canals stopping for repairs at same time at Committee’s Annual visit to Brimscombe. Very doubtful possible to put in foundation for crane at Cirencester at present due to unprecedented quantity of water in earth.
Last time J. Whitehouse passed this way with your boats he mentioned considerable quantity of flints might be conveyed into Staffordshire from Reading, etc, if reduction in tonnage on line of canals effected. Committee has agreed to allow flints brought in boats whose immediate preceding voyage was coal or merchandise passing through this canal to pass on payment of 2s per ton only. Will speak to Mr Dunsford & recommend similar price charged on Wilts & Berks canal and hope this would enable an extensive trade.
To be let and entered upon immediately Two very commodious Warehouses situate at Brimscombe Port on the Banks of the Thames and Severn Canal Navigation well adapted for carrying on the Bar Iron, Corn or any other Business requiring premises, & possessing the advantage of a Regular & expeditious water conveyance between London Bristol Birmingham Gloucester etc. Further particulars may be known upon application to J. R. Denyer, Thames and Severn Canal Office, Brimscombe Port, Gloucestershire.
Goods carefully housed in Dry, Airy Warehouses for any period upon reasonable terms.
Two resolutions of the Committee made at meeting on 6 Aug. First, advantages of all parties stopping for general repairs at same time. Willing to fall in with any arrangements that may be made between the Wilts & Berks & Stroudwater, at the same time knowing the difficulty of keeping workmen in a proper state of sobriety etc I beg to suggest the propriety of avoiding if possible such periods as are severally kept as festivals by the “productive population”.
Second, regarding reduction in tonnage when carried in boats whose immediate preceding cargo has been coals or other articles passing through the canal.
Copy resolution regarding advantages of stopping canals for general repairs at same time, if possible such periods as are usually devoted by the labouring community to holiday making etc for reasons too obvious to require particularizing.
Usual weekly papers enclosed together with a hand bill respecting opening Lock Gates, a Gloster Journal containing advertisement relating to letting the Warehouses, & an agreement between Mr Jones for the Company and Mr Lidiard for the interested parties for land taken for the new side pond at Wilmore Way.
Crane at Cricklade being taken down to re-use some of the materials in erection of new Lockkeepers Houses.
Failure in one of the Aqueducts or Culverts on Glos. & Berkeley Canal though not yet know the extent.
Enclosed copy of Commissioners order relating to the See of Salisbury Land, plus list of tenants as stated in the plan Book of the Canal. Recollect dispute as to who entitled to be paid money so matter been placed in hands of Trustees until legal title produced to empower Company to proceed with the works.
Certificates for last two cargoes taken by Dangerfield not yet returned so no drawback possible yet.
Gloucester & Berkeley Canal again navigable. Met with Messrs Croome & Son & discharged their account they are decidedly of opinion the making a false entry attaches to the whole Cargo & that drawing up a case & taking opinion thereon would be incurring an unnecessary expense.
Want more information on Messrs Stranges Salt trade to Swindon before giving opinion on it. Am making necessary enquiries.
Mr Dunsford mentions your name as complaining of loss of portion of Salt trade from Swindon as consequence of Marlborough and its neighbourhood being supplied cheaper from Burbage Wharf on Kennet & Avon Canal with Salt taken via Bristol. What has been annual quantity sold by you for last two or three years, and gross amount of drawbacks you consider would enable you to regain such trade?
Very considerable saving will be made in building 2 cottages by making the Tool Room or Cellar under the pantry instead of under the sitting room as proposed. More in accordance for floor of sitting room to be of stone instead of board … by dividing the pantry from the sitting room by a 9 inch brick wall instead of studding etc we shall considerably decrease the expense by saving a beam for the upper floor, lathes, nails, studs & workmanship. My object is to use as many of the old materials & lengths of timber too short for general purposes in these buildings as possible.
Be so good as to inform Luke Griffin his wages in common with others will be reduced to 18s per week from Saturday 11th Sep such wages being considered a good price where a house is found.
Another stoppage in Tunnel. A great pity the sill was lowered so much. The Engine should be employed to keep water with the Churn if possible at 3ft 6ins.
Enclose letter received from Mr Dunsford, agent to Wilts & Berks Canal Co. stating, there cannot be a doubt of the advantage of a concerted arrangement between us as to stoppages for repairs, especially since the establishment of the Fly Boats…
Correspond directly with Mr Dunsford as to proposals as Stroud Canal is in the centre.
You omitted to sign certificates for receipt of drawbacks.
Received long letter from London regarding the stoppage if not already done so pray lose no time in trying to remove some of the gravel at the place where it occurred namely the Valley pit. I will send the door frames etc for Wilmoreway Cottage by first Boat.
Not possible to carry Bar or Pig Iron by canal while cost of carrying it by sea from Gloucester to London is cheaper. Only reason Hoop & Sheet Iron not go same way is its great liability to damage, particularly with salt water. Mr Franklin to get more information on price. Would help to have names of present shippers.
The Fly Boats not very productive to Canal at present. Too many other preferable means for conveyance of goods. For example, unable to compete with Kennet & Avon Canal for produce of South Wales, etc., nor against the Grand Junction for produce of Staffordshire. Coasting trade from Gloucester takes heavy and coarse articles from Shropshire except in event of war and risk of vessels being taken when inland trade preferable. Mr Ames considering if anything possible regarding flint trade from Reading.
Regarding damage to planking of Lock Gates by the small boats, and use of Bar Iron to remedy, this now almost impossible due to boats no longer being made with almost upright stems. Boats now made with such variety of shapes (sketch of stems of canal boats) that fluctuations in water depth when loading means part of stem which projects liable to strike the planking either above, below or between the Iron Bars – 2 on each gate. Lower gates being liable to most damage. Description of action taken to try to obviate the problem of a heavy blow splitting the planking.
Difficulty in ascertaining contents of boats by gauge is the trick much in practice of having the name of the Vessel Owner, etc upon a very trifling plate of Iron & which is removed from one boat to another according as it may suit the will of those to whom they belong or work them. A sett of the instruments you mention would be very useful so will mention to the Committee.
List of coal prices at the different wharves.
(Includes a sketch of different stem shapes of canal boats)
The coal trade appears a little more on the move & I hope by the end of the month to see most if not all, the usual Vessels fully employed, the Clothing trade is likewise much improved. As supply of water to mills becoming very limited steam power must be used which must also improve revenue of Canal.
Third rail road in Forest of Dean proposed. Notice in Gloucester Journal. Parties have purchased all private property through which propose to run. Existing rail roads alarmed. As for the Canal it must tend to do good by bringing a greater quantity of the Treasures of the Forest into the market.
Matter of importance to obtain set of gauging rods for gauging boats. If not provided with a set they could easily be got from makers through the Grand Junction Canal Co. who would also instruct on their use. Recommend a trial of their use.
Request price of flints per ton delivered to waterside at Reading, Wallingford, etc & if dark and light flints what would be a fair freight from the different places to Abingdon brought in boats going to fetch coal or returning after delivering a cargo.
Details of loss of sales to Messrs Strange’s salt trade as result of trade carried on principally by Mark Hale via Kennet and Avon Canal. Present importation of salt by Messrs Strange 100 tons per annum. Discussion as to level of drawback.
Fall in canals from Cirencester to Severn at Framilode: Thames and Severn 241 feet and Stroud Water 142ft 5ins. Total 343ft 5ins.
What is exact size of new building in the clear and thickness of the walls as want to begin use of it.
Given Mr Jones necessary directions regarding survey but not think any possibility that trade carried on this canal could repay such an outlay of annual expenditure.
Erection of new lock gates for Wilmoreway deferred by direction of Committee though need to protect damage to planking by small boats.
Regarding the London & Gloucester trade have written to Iron Masters and Cheese Factors in Shropshire and obtaining information as to Flints with view to probability of supplying the Potteries with flints through this Canal from Reading, Wallingford, etc in boats going for coals.
The Company are threatened with an Action by Mr Mackey & Mr Howell of Coates unless the road to Thames Head Wharf through their grounds is partitioned off by a wall due to the perpetual trespass arising from the gates being left open. I think Hawkinsm Bramble & Oakell might get sufficient stones during winter out of the bank to do this.
Am instructed by the Reverend B. Mackey & Mr Henry Howell of Coates to inform you that unless a wall is immediately erected on the side of the road leading from the Canal Wharf at Thames Head into the Tetbury Turnpike Road an action will be commenced against the Canal Co. Mr Mackey & Mr Howell daily sustaining considerable damage by the straying of their own cattle & the trespassing of others from the turnpike road.
By conforming to the wishes of Mackey and Howell (the only interested parties) the question of the Company having a right of road I hope can be set at rest by nothing more than a common field mound and without incurring any additional expense by the summit watchman in the winter using stone taken out of the Canal now lying on the banks. The distance of wall being 80 to 100 yards which lies considerably behind the wharf to which it forms the wagon road. Mackey and Howell would be satisfied if they know it is intended to be done before next Spring being the season most important to them from the early grass produced by the occasional overflowing of the Thames Head springs.
Mr Jones wishes to defer surveying the country named in Mr Kerricks letter until leaves fallen from hedges so it can be more accurately done.
Annual Assembly due on 26 Oct can be the time to assess trade to Shropshire etc and make such alterations as may be expedient.
Please to write to Rev B Mackey and Mr Henry Howell to assure them their claim too unimportant in nature to render a recourse to court of law as the feeling of our Committee on such occasions to grant any reasonable accommodation to the landed proprietors in the neighbourhood of the canal. I think it quite superfluous to make any enquiries as to the legal rights … I will without waiting for a meeting of the Committee authorize you to make the necessary fences as soon as convenient. It is always more consistent with my feelings at once to yield small and unimportant points than to keep up unnecessary objects of contest & jealousy.
Have forwarded copies of your letter to Rev B. Mackey and Mr Henry Howell. Can assure you letter of Mr Mackey (the attorney) of which copy sent to you was first intimation had on subject. Many years ago remember dispute as to any legal right Company possessed to the road in question but proceeded no further than a common dispute. Idea to fence off the road in present dispute at instance of only interested parties amounts only to acknowledgement on their parts of the Company’s right. Not certain it is any part of the Glebe Land but recommend its being registered in General Assembly proceedings on 26th Oct as a proof of the application being made. It shall be done during the ensuing winter.
Information received regarding the present shippers of Iron, Cheese, etc from Shropshire. Mr Jones to proceed with survey from the Colne at Horcott near Fairford. Will send you results.
Depth of water in five of the wells at or near Kemble ascertained & Engine put to work day and night for a week from 16 to 23 Aug. Details of the water levels on 16th and 23rd set out for the five wells of Mr Gordon, Kemble; Mr Young, Kemble; Mr Morse, Kemble; Mr Day, Tarlton & Mr Ratcliff of Tarlton. The water in the engine pit fell five feet during the time.
Mr Gordon and family not residing at Kemble during the period. The other wells attached to different farms. If the Engine had any affect on the water levels would have been much greater than shown.
Presume you will have heard of a Rail Road project from Gloucester to Birmingham. Not foresee any injury to this Canal if certain not to approach nearer than Gloucester but great danger if it does so at any future period. Staff & Worcester & Worcester & Birmingham if carried into effect would prove very detrimental. I cannot learn whether it has the approbation of Government as connected with the Gloster & Berkly Canal.
Enquiries made of local nurseries regarding the Trembling Poplar by far the best for moist conditions. Plants from 3 to 4 feet high cost 30s per hundred. Great pleasure in procuring for Mr J. Perry if he wishes.
Enclosed draft for £6 17s 2d for a year’s Chief Rent due to Dean & Chapter of Bristol.
Includes receipts & payments to 4th instant being the best that has accrued for a corresponding period for some years.
One of projected railways previously alluded to now assumed name of “The Birmingham, Worcester, Gloucester, & Bristol Railway.” To unite the two latter places they must cross the Stroud Canal; & whenever a rail road shows itself upon the banks of that Canal its ruin may be dated. It appears it is not intended to apply to Parliament this session.
Stone taken from neighbourhood of Siddington for repair of Turnpike road on Berkshire side of St John’s Bridge already passes at reduced tonnage. Cannot reduce rate further unless greater quantity carried which would be of benefit to the Canal. Otherwise more wear and tear of the locks & loss of water for the same amount. Inform me of additional district of road to be repaired with the stone alluded to, and the extra annual quantity required.
Enclose account of Mr Dike which appears … manufactured to meet the case (lengthy detail of the erroneous accounting and allegations) Mr Dike’s own concern at Pimlico. Mr Hatchard his partner at Millbank.
The arrival of Oats and other Corn at Gloucester very great and fully rely on Canal being benefitted by a portion of it being forwarded to Oxford & other places.
Assure Committee every attention to economy where practicable.
Washhouse built at Wallbridge completed. Cellar was abandoned as Washhouse erected though the application may be renewed. The Land at Boxwell Springs remains as seen but desirable to ascertain what took place under the enclosure. The documents to be inspected by Mr Jones.
If possible, depths of water in wells to be measured every fortnight until the springs break.
Taking advantage of recent dry weather and reduced water in the earth to erect Crane at Cirencester. As no water can be taken from River Churn to supply summit level during the period of 6 or 7 days have ordered Engine to work day and night as only collateral branch being impeded. The main line remaining navigable.
Canal beginning to feel benefit of recent large arrivals of Corn at Gloucester.
Last week’s weather impeded erecting of crane at Cirencester. Hope to be able to admit the water into the Canal from the Churn.
Altho’ Mr Dike’s accounts & statements are most decidedly at variance with each other, & would disgrace a Chandler’s Shop, much more such a Concern as his, & altho’ I consider it next to impossible that his general business can be carried on in a similar way, still I must confess myself too ignorant of the Law to know by what process he is to be made amenable – there cannot be two opinions as to the great portion of the loss arising from his negligence & inattention … I very much fear the Company will never recover any portion of the money expended in sending the Stone to London, either in a Court of Law, or by submitting it to reference…
The remaining blocks should be seen by a competent judge to ascertain if damaged by last winter making them good for nothing. If sound recommend respectable mason making the best of them for the Company, for instance the Goldsmith’s Hall Mason.
Corrections to errors in bill against the Company for Oil.
Underground work of the Crane at Cirencester sufficiently completed to allow refill of water to Canal. Hourly looking for visible beneficial effects such as to enable discontinuance of working Engine or purchasing water from the Churn.
No application made to rent Warehouses advertised some time ago. Should the notice reappear?
Application made, as expected, for a portion of the present Cellar to be added to part of the House rented by Mrs Gates at Wallbridge who has taken out a licence under the New Act for selling beer.
Enclosed the result of plumbing the Wells belonging to Mr Gordon.
Crane at Cirencester been erected without the main line of Canal being obstructed.
One of the Watchhouses built at Wilmoreway just tiled & Carpenter at Siddington to be employed in winter to finish inside work. The other to be commenced in Mar to reduce number of masons during the winter.
Late rains sufficiently broken the Springs to enable vessels to carry full cargos without Engine being worked or water purchased from the Churn. Every effort being made to place stocks of Coal at the different wharfs to meet a frost.
… to prevent the perpetual quarrelling amongst retail dealers (by lodging their coal, on the various wharfs, in such situations as to cause the greatest annoyance to each other) to apportion each a spot of ground … giving choice according to seniority as Coal sellers. This plan, which has been adopted for upwards of 30 years at all the retail Wharfs remedied to a great extent the evil complained of … by this arrangement Mr Baker’s father sold coals from the spot of ground now the subject of dispute, & Mr Baker succeeded him without any person wishing to disturb him it being understood the trade was carrying on for the benefit of the Widow & numerous family but which proves not to have been the case…
Mr Baker is not only in the Gazette as a Bankrupt – but actually at this period residing within the Walls of the Fleet prison & Mr George considering him as dead to this concern …
If he were to become a coal seller again it would be as a new man applying to occupy the same ground.
None of the portions of wharf alluded to are let but paid for by the ton for the quantity landed so that all parts of the Wharf are alike. Mr George is next in rotation to Mr Baker & but for his connection with my family (& the attempts that I am confident would be made to villify my character had I acted in this case as I have uniformly done before) the subject would not have occupied the time of yourself or the Committee & for doing which I beg to apologise …
12 foot 4 inches is the extreme breadth at which a vessel will pass through this Canal, & 64 feet long, exclusive of the rudder.
Letter received from some proprietors in Staffordshire “If Mr Parker could reduce the rate … for Pig & Bar Iron & heavy Castings from Gloucester to London a very considerable trade in these Articles may be expected … We find the Iron sent Coast wise does not give satisfaction in consequence of the charges added to the Freight & uncertainty as to time”.
Not my account that is incorrect as to quantity of Goods & Coals passing on the Canal (detailed explanation of discrepancies).
Importation of Coal for half year ending Oct 1829 was only 15,244 tons while for past half year t was 22,555 tons.
Saw Mr Harding for short period on the Wharf expecting to see him on his return from the quarries but heard from Franklin he had left. Had wished for conversation as consider better prospect of trade in Stone than before, & as he is linked to a Salt Concern some good will arise to the Canal.
Sorry to perceive Mr J. Perry met with an accident but happy he is fast recovering.
Enclose report of Mr Jones on practicality of bringing water from the Colne near Horcutt to supply Summit level of T&S Canal, & enclose sketch of the Country mentioned by Mr Jones, which in conjunction with Rudges Map will elucidate the subject.
Have mentioned to Mr Parker your remarks on Shropshire Iron going to London via T&S Canal. Have had several quantities of Cheese from Shrewsbury & understand the Iron Masters had promised to try this conveyance for the present quarter for their Hoop & Sheet Iron but only one lot has passed. The Boats ought not to shift their cargos but convey them throughout but this cannot be effected until the same parties are also concerned throughout.
Mr Parker confining himself to the Thames as far as Abingdon when Franklin takes from & delivers to him this Mr Parker does to avoid partnership.
(Discussion on method of construction & reinforcement of lock gates to protect from damage by boats’ stems)
Expect sale of Newport Coal to increase along the Canal but understand the price is ruinous to the shipper so that alterations in the trade are being put into effect.
Ceiling joists to be sent by an early boat. Will send by first boat loading for Cricklade Wharf the Gates, Posts, etc removed from Wallbridge. Expect they may be too narrow for present opening between pillars but must be made to do. Present gates hung to the pillars to be sent to Brimscombe when the others are erected. A chain to be sent for the Bridgeway, similar to those on the summit. No time to be lost in putting up the gates on their arrival.
Appears the Commissioners must have exceeded their powers in allotting Freehold Property at South Cerney they never could possess authority to allot.
Sorry to say though the recent acts of insubordination appear to have been checked by prompt measures of magistrates, those of incendiarision have succeeded no less than four of these events having occurred within a week the last on Saturday when 3 Wheat & 1 Bean Ricks were consumed, about 8 miles from this place.
Previously mentioned Mr Jones directed to ascertain what took place under South Cerney Inclosure Act with reference to the Land at Boxwell Springs.
(Discussion regarding his findings, including specific references to Plans; lack of water from springs in summer unable to adequately supply canal so introduction of shallow lock, & part of canal reduced in width; details of land ownership; inability under the Act to dispossess freeholders of their property; Mr Proctor as manager of disputed piece of land in 1809 – not negligent)
Coal trade along Canal considerably improved in last week due to frost. Stacks at different Wharfs generally good.
Have to defer going to Wharfs until next week as summoned upon Grand Jury at Quarter Sessions which commence tomorrow & judging from the Calendar not likely to terminate this week.
Canal scarcely passable & not require very severe frost to unite previously broken ice & render it as strong as before.
I returned from Gloucester on Saturday Evening & take my usual Journey to close the Wharf Accts. along the Canal tomorrow.
Just informed a portion of the long arching in Tunnel has fallen in. Not yet know full extent. Will dispatch proper persons tomorrow morning to ascertain what materials required to secure any portion of the break having appearance of danger before letting off water to remove rubbish from bottom.
Every preparation made to repair Tunnel when frosts allow or it should become necessary. Otherwise not intend to stop navigation & delay coal trade.
You will be pleased to observe that as little as possible is transacted or money received at any other place than this (ie Brimscombe) to prevent accidents, local business excepted.
(Discussion regarding intended meaning of wording in official document)
Not expect anything very serious as to expense or stoppage of Canal due to Tunnel. A passing place would be of only very partial advantage by imagining 2 or 3 boats each way meeting.
Forwarded to 20 Lombard Street account of water taken from River Churn for supply of Canal during past year (£318 9s 9d) Subject of a reservoir for supplying Summit level. Land generally is strong Clay, chiefly belonging to the Glebe of Siddington (details as to acreage, value and ownership)
Mr Parker about to remove his carrying trade from Brooks Wharf to Hambro Wharf, Mr Mason the occupier of the former, has been making arrangements for establishing “a Fly Boat trade” as usual from his Wharf provided the Committee will put the parties on the same footing as Messrs Parker & Franklin.
Wilts & Berks Canal impeded by ice unlike T&S though present very heavy snow fall may terminate in a thaw.
Rapidity snow & frost has left together with great quantity of rain in last 24 hours may cause very high flood. Break in Tunnel been repaired.
I really cannot see any source from which a return can be calculated upon for the outlay and annual expense attendant upon a reservoir the water from which to be pumped into the Canal by means of a Steam Engine … (discussion of pros and cons of construction of reservoir)
Meeting of Clothiers and other consumers of coal takes place today to take into consideration the propriety of assisting the projectors of the proposed new rail road in the Forest of dean a measure I am given to understand the Commissioners of Woods & Forests may be considered more in favor of than otherwise.
Breach in Tunnel been repaired during the late frost.
I look forward with pleasure and confidence to an equal dividend upon all classes of shares in Apr next & I wish I could add for future years but I am fearful the ensuing summer trade will be flat owing to the existing stocks of Coal.
T. Tidmas has forwarded your note to him. By order of the General Assembly of this Company all coal subject to payment of Wharfage chargeable at sixpence per ton which they “can legally demand”. No distinction made between the various traders on the canal.
Cannot recommend any further concession on rates. … the real answer … is how long will the Company be enabled to allow them (the Fly Boats) their present privileges unless a great increase of Carriage takes place at the present rate of tonnage to compensate for the additional damage the Works of the Canal sustain which is of no trifling description.
(If further reductions made to tonnage rates it will encourage other applications until the Canal is covered with Boats whose produce will be inadequate to the repairs of the Canal alone to say nothing of other attendant expenses)
Proposed repeal of duty on Slates likely to force an increased quantity into interior of Country in opposition to native heavy stone tile.
Hope promises of projectors & supporters of proposed third rail road in Forest of Dean are realized as reduction in price of Coal from that district may see increased quantity passing through the Canal. I fear however it may raise the subject of a rail road from Severn to Stroud again.
Request for another Journal & Ledger ordered from Thomas & Co.
The windows to be sent for Wilmoreway Cottage. Franklins are preparing the Quoins for Eisey Cottage.
Description of acreage, value and location of land at Wilmoreway Lock owned by Mr Christopher Leech.
Repeal of duty on Seaborne Coals likely to enable them to be brought higher up River Thames in opposition to those from inland districts, including the Forest.
Details provided of Fly Boat trade since its commencement on 1 Nov 1829 (but not recorded). Increase in quantity of trade partly due to the Fly Boats but continue to question whether produce of such increase is equal to the additional Damage, wear & tear of the Locks & extra consumption of water… my own opinion … is that a very considerable increase must take place at the present rates of tonnage without further reduction to make it answer the Company’s purpose…
Nothing would give me so much pleasure as to see a repetition of the Bustle formerly upon this Canal provided it was accompanied by a proportionate profit otherwise of course the Canal is better without it.
As many repairs as practicable to be carried out at Whitsuntide.
Having been desired by Mr Herrick to make a statement of Articles carried by Franklin & Parker, enclosed is a copy.
As expected, repeal of duty on Slates proving an advantage to Canal. Two Cargos of about 70 tons each already arrived in Glos & Berkly Canal, bound for Oxford.
Stroud Canal Co. intend postponing repairs proposed for Whitsuntide.
Present very heavy rains no doubt will cause high flood on the rivers.
Details of nature and extent of complaint regarding repairs to part of Canal. Due to close texture of gravel it was considered it would become water tight without lining it with clay or puddling and consequently left for a distance of about 3 and a half miles. To do either now would be little short in time and expense of making a new canal for the same length and such would be required because if any loss of water does arise it must be general throughout the distance & more in the character of Soakage & consequently would require to be either lined or puddled …
Basin at Brimscombe to be free of water to put in New Bridge to the Island so will take opportunity to erect pair of lower lock gates.
Part of the Casks of Fullers Earth brought by your Vessel some time ago still on our Wharf at a weekly expense to you & considerable inconvenience to us in consequence of the faulty state of the Casks preventing their being removed out of the way.
Mr George did not go to Cirencester this day & young Moody left before arrival of post.
Came home Tuesday night & found Luke Griffin here the following morning on which day I believe he left you are at full liberty to deal with him in any way you please. Only saw him for short time as had to go to Tewkesbury Election on Wednesday. Need to get rubbish out of bottom of Tunnel during the stoppage. Will send a sett of stop planks for the purpose. I will be at Siddington this week.
Not got our fine sieve, believe it is at Thames Head. Order it sent by first boat.
Every preparation to do as many repairs as possible during approaching stoppage of Canal.
Communicated to General Assembly of Proprietors of T&S Canal at meeting held on 26 Apr last as promised, our correspondence regarding tonnage on stone for repairs of turnpike roads. Resolution made as follows:
Upon all Stone, the produce of the Summit level, carried to or beyond Lechlade for the repair of Turnpike Roads, from the 1st day of Nov to the 31st day of Mar, One Penny per Ton per Mile; provided the water on Siddington Sill stands at 3ft 6ins – and from the 1st day of Apr to the 31st day of Oct, One Penny Half Penny per ton per mile.
Please pay Five Pounds Five Shillings for a Warehouse formerly occupied by John Baker & latterly by you as his assignee.
Necessary permissions obtained to try experiments on land proposed for a reservoir so Mr Creswell may come after 6th Jun.
Sum of £10 on your Stone account still owed to Mr Salt.
No boats can be allowed to pass until repairs completed. Time for stopping Canal being a fortnight from Whit Monday. Assure Committee every exertion to be made to complete, employing workmen 14 hours per day.
The Stroud Canal (contrary to their first intention) is stopped till 6th Jun.
Must be a mistake regarding Wilts & Berks Canal having been assured their stoppage would be for a fortnight.
Everything will be done consistent with the stability of the repairs, to meet the wishes of the Committee though next to impossible to open the Canal before 6th Jun, & unless the Stroud could do so, the utility would be none.
Period you suggest will suit very well… the conveyance from Birmingham is by the York House Bath Coach from the Albion Hotel which passes thro Stroudwater (two miles from this place) about 4 o’clock in the afternoon where you will leave it & I will endeavour to have some person to meet you.
Repairs concluded on this and Stroud Canal on Saturday evening last & water let in the following day.
Mr Cresswell to proceed with survey of proposed reservoir on 14th.
Repairs completed. Weather fine throughout.
A pair of Lower Gates erected at the Lock here leading to Stroud, the foundation & Wing Walls for New Bridge to the Island built, a portion of the Quay Wall taken down & rebuilt, & immense quantity of mud, soil, etc from slopes & under the walls for better accommodation of the vessels, etc.
At Daneway one side of Lock which had become dangerous been replaced with Stone & Bricks. Residue of the Rubbish deposited in bottom of Tunnel (when part of roof fell down several months since) has been removed & many of leakages in summit level been stopped.
At Wilmoreway the new side pond been united with Lock, a pair of new Lower Lock Gates erected & vast accumulation of mud (which formed a barrier to boats loading to proper depths & caused an increased consumption of water) removed.
Mr Cresswell appointed to examine nature of soil etc of projected reservoir.
From your letter … led to think you supposed possession of the Salt Warehouse was delivered up to this Company directly after the conclusion of Mr Baker’s sale; such however was not the fact, nor was I aware that possession was intended … until the keys were brought & left at this Office by an almost unknown hand on 31st Jan.
You will therefore perceive that the premises were held longer than necessary for the purposes of the Bankruptcy, & the Company being deprived thereby of obtaining a tenant, must look to you for remuneration by the payment of rent.
Duty taken off Slates resulted in additional quantity being carried through the Canal.
Disturbances in Forest of Dean totally stopped Coals being brought down the railroads at present. I cannot however learn that the parties have proceeded to commit any further act of violence than throwing open the enclosures, of which 2,200 acres has been accomplished …
Application made for further reduction of tonnage unreasonable.
Goods carried to and from London in the Fly Boats already charged very moderate tonnage (details of yearly tonnage and rates explained)
Observed very considerable loss of water at the feeder due to defective state of the mill hatches & leakages in the banks. Supposed Earl Bathurst responsible for repairs, referred by Mr Anderson to you to immediately remedy to prevent differences arising between Millers & Company regarding quantity of water taken. Company not liable for water improperly diverted.
Two boats brought household & other goods to Marston in Apr last for Mr Smith for which no weight or admeasurement in the invoices, wharfinger unable to assess tonnage due. Be more particular in future. Would be very glad to see greater quantities of goods carried by your boat on this Canal.
Water in rivers Thames and Severn exceedingly short owing to continued dry weather. In Severn not more than 10ins in some places.
Unable to accede to request for extension of trade upon the Canal.
Communication between Brimscombe & River Severn and Gloucester been impeded by sinking of a Brig loaded with iron at the junction of Gloucester & Berkeley Canal with the Stroud.
Notice given to occupier of mill adjoining Canal feeder at Cirencester to repair his flood-hatches, etc.
Request you settle your account. Amount due £12
1831. Letter to J. S. Salt, Esq., London (p163)
Supply of water at the Churn and at the Engine becoming very limited, and likely to continue until springs replenished by rain.
Your men stated they had insufficient money & assuring they would return immediately for more slates I allowed them rather than detain the boats though contrary to usual practice.
The late rains not improved water in the Canal & very trifling in Thames though Severn all but flooded.
Many Canals short of water. Worcester and Birmingham have exhausted their reservoirs & are much distressed. I hope rain will soon relieve us all.
Continued illness of one of the clerks whose recovery extremely doubtful, has caused arrears of business in office despite attempts to contrary.
Engine in need of repair, very unfortunate as it was needed every hour to keep the summit level as high as possible.
No improvement in water at summit level. Boats drawing more than 1ft 10ins unable to pass.
Mr Ward’s boats have made 2 trips each & have not carried whole of the vessel’s cargo of slates, about 64 tons.
The weights of goods carried by your boats, particularly from Gloucester, are not satisfactory & if freight charged by same account, it is likely to be a great loss to you as carriers.
Complaint by Mr Hamlyn erroneous. … a very double-faced man. Delays in trade due to many causes, including lack of water in the rivers, and not connected with the Canal. Regarding complaints on Housage charge this is an average charge for light and heavy goods, for cranage, housage or wharfage, weighing, Clerks’ attendance, etc. on all articles carried.
Expect the complaint originates with Mr Parker. Designed to make it appear as a hardship & imposition to be charged wharfage etc on articles not landed. But if charge taken off as wharfage must be added as tonnage.
Due to illness and consequent death of the Clerk I have been unable to leave home since Committee’s last visit, but every step that possibly could be taken has been taken to prevent & remedy any irregularity as much as possible.
Yesterday we passed first lot of castings for Marlow Bridge.
As predicted a long string of complaints from Mr Hamlyn (Franklin & Hamlyn) to Mr Richards respecting obstructions at & in the Tunnel, attributing all delays to the Canal solely when it is notorious that Mr Parker’s boats have been days behind their time at Abingdon.
Letter from Mr Thomas Perry wishing further experiments in boring. Calculating open cutting etc at Thames Head proceeding rapidly this fine weather.
Water in Canal gradually improving after rain & as earth saturated an over flow of springs breaking is expected with prospect of good coal trade.
Meeting of Commissioners of Stroud and Chalford Road to be held this week, bring to their attention state of bridge at bottom of Cowcombe Hill, their responsibility. Many of the stones loose & thrown in Canal.
Surprised no increase in water of the summit, 3ft 3ins. Request greater supply, by purchase or extra working the Engine, or both, to enable boats to navigate as deep as can be maintained. I hope no further necessity of further flying to the summit this season for a supply up the valley – the reservoir, valley pond and Whitehall being nearly full.
Feel it my duty to remind you not to keep more men in your employ than safety of Canal requires during approaching Winter, rather have a greater number in the Spring.
Water in Canal sufficiently good for boats to load to nearly 3 feet. Daily improving so in a week will see them pass having full freights.
Two of your men (Jones & Burrows) have, with your knowledge, been guilty of lopping a tree belonging to the Company to use on your premises. It is my duty to prosecute all parties concerned & will do so unless satisfaction is made.
Will try to muster old stuff for posts and rails. Stopping Canal for removing mud etc from reservoir cannot be done before May (unless it can be done during stoppage for frost) – stopping the Canal during the very best period for carrying on the Trade must be nothing short of madness. Last Saturday orders given for 2000 tons coal to be sent as fast as possible to Oxford, Tadpole & Radcot Wharfs, & corn trade from Gloucester also expect to be brisk.
Obstruction at Riching’s Quarry must be removed as soon as possible without injuring navigation.
Unable to give you answer regarding the Tithe. Watchmen house rent free, they do not consider themselves subject to payment of tax or rates, particularly as occupier derives all benefit from produce. But opinion & directions on it must be taken from the Company.
If old heels from Wilmoreway will do for repair of T Pash’s house, Luke might work at it during Winter.
Sudden death of Mr Trotter, Mr Protheroe’s principal agent, since I last wrote you. Mr George gone to Lydney to meet Mr P. who no doubt must be very much put about by so unexpected an event.
Water in summit level improves daily as orders for coal along Canal & Thames are very considerable which I trust will be executed before frost sets in.
Company acted wisely not entertaining complaints of Mr Hamlyn, or rather Mr Parker.
Not acquainted with Mr Cresswell’s or Mr Jones’s reports on experiments at Siddington which place me in awkward position.
Regarding need for further supply of water – make present means as efficient as possible. Dispute amongst Committee members respecting how to make up deficiency in water commensurate with trade on Canal.
Mudding of Canal before Spring out of the question, unless when stopped for frost. Making deposit of bricks, etc to repair some of defective parts of Tunnel arching when possible.
Ewen Wells must be much lower than our Engine can draw from. Appears people swear the Engine not only draws water through clay ponds on the tops of hills but that it forces water up for its own supply. Request your opinion to answer to Mr Richards.
Tolls of the 5 & 6 district of the Thames; the right of this or any Canal Company to rent of tolls questionable. Object of T&S Committee regarding these tolls to prevent innovation on their present trade on Thames. Thames Commissioners cannot, in leasing these tolls, grant others greater powers than they possess.
Only aware of two toll houses belonging to the Commissioners: at St John’s Bridge, built more than a year ago & at Osney built about 8 years ago. The tolls at the other pound locks are received by the occupiers of the Old Weirs.
Receipts from the Ferrys which transfer the boat horses from one side of the river to the other where the towing path changes sides and charge made for horse & carter, not sufficient to keep boats in repair.
Considered the subject with Mr George & unable to see any advantage or disadvantage of T&S Co. renting these tolls therefore recommend Committee having nothing to do with them.
Not aware of any coal being brought from Cheltenham to Cirencester.
Sodbury Coal always found its way there by means of Higglers, Carts, etc.
Understand a locomotive engine on railroad between Gloucester & Cheltenham about fortnight ago has nearly destroyed whole line by breaking the train plate, unsetting the blocks, etc.
Complaint of Engine interfering with water at Ewen is new to me despite residing here nearly 38 years, indeed if such is the fact all surveys, plans, etc upon the subject are erroneous. Water generally last summer very scarce & less in River Churn at Cirencester than ever known it – some days not yielding more than 8 or 10 locks full. If Reverend J. P. Jones can establish truth of what he has stated no need for Co. & Mr Gordon to continue the dispute.
Now water in Canal to enable full loads, every exertion being made to place stocks of coal at different wharfs to meet demands of approaching winter.
Some time ago directed Overseers of parish of Inglesham to pay you some money. Have they done so?
Your answer to Rev. J. P. Jones in accordance with own opinion.
Will have joists cut & boards split as for Eisey House. Luke can prepare it during winter.
Wish you to come here at first opportunity to look at some fencing that formerly enclosed the wharf at Wallbridge. I am sorry I cannot come up to see your Father, but shall be very glad to give him Bed & Board if he will pay us a visit.
Little doubt Rev. J. P. Jones’ letter concocted at Mr Gordon’s house or under his direction, it is so decidedly at variance with commonsense, to those who know the local situation, that I am only surprised it was ever written.
I presume Mr Shadwell abandoned his voyage, etc never having seen or heard of him.
As long as sufficient water to enable proper sized boats to carry 20 or more tons, would be unjust to allow smaller boats to pass paying for less. You probably not aware all boats less that full sized T&S boats are liable as per the Act to payment for 20 tons, except on their return.
At all times unwilling to complain of other persons servants except where interests of Canal affected.
We have here some articles trifling in weight from Bullo, kept for your boat but Wickson refused to stop his boat to take them, alledging that she was already too deep for her leakey state. Not first time Wickson has acted like this, leaving goods behind. Vain to expect an increase of goods unless forwarded in an expeditious and regular manner and this can never be calculated upon where men are allowed to assume the place of their masters.
If Wickson’s reason is just in this instance, boat very unfit and what a risk you run making yourself liable for all the consequences.
If frosts sets in before Christmas fear there will be deficiency of coals at the various wharfs to meet demand which at present is very great. Everything being done to meet difficulty.
Considering possibility of getting mud out of Summit Level during a frost. Danger of frost damage to masonry by exposure to weather, and risk of clay lining cracking; uncertainty of stoppage period; expense; probable frozen mud adhere to clay lining; impracticality of working at time of severe frost or deep snow. Suggest Committee consider abandoning idea of doing the work during time of frost. Making arrangements for repairs of most faulty places in Tunnel in event of frost stopping navigation as this only means keeping mortar useable and such work only requires two bricklayers with a labourer.
Present weather favours importation of coals but general scarcity at the shipping places – prices raised at Worcester & Gloucester by several shillings per ton. Stocks on Oxford Canal very low, as everywhere.
The 3 Clerks entered in the Company’s return are employed at this place (Brimscombe), together with John Pratt, Wharfman. James Pratt is employed as Wharfman at the Upper Wharf, Stroud.
The Clerks at Cirencester, etc are to best of my knowledge entered in respective parishes where they reside, as insisted by Mr Bath the surveyor. They are: Joseph Tidmas, Cirencester; Charles Jones, Siddington; Thomas S[tr]ugan, Lechlade and W. R. Ryman, Lechlade.
Had it not been for Forest Coal the Country must have suffered greatly owing to disturbances in Staffordshire. Several men have returned leaving their boats there unable to load, one had his boat unloaded by the Colliers themselves. I sincerely hope the Forresters will remain quiet.
Account of water drawn from River Churn for use of Canal for the year not exceed last year due to improved state of Canal. Recent rains caused very high floods in River Thames and Severn which have retarded getting more stocks of coal to the different wharfs. Having pointed out to Mr Hawker & some members of Stroud Canal necessity for their assisting the Fly Trade by reduction in tonnage on heavy articles & showing great sacrifices made by T&S – happy to say their Special General Assembly on 15 Dec ordered half tonnage rates on Bar Iron, Boiler Plates, Gross Iron Castings & Nails from Gloucester to London.
Pleased to inform you Stroud Canal reduced their tonnage on certain articles. The reduction to commence on the articles so entitled on board the Hope, L. Gardner, 19 Dec on which I have also made the promised reduction in our charges on housage, etc.
I trust present frost soon cause Rivers Thames and Severn to be navigable.
Importation of coals from Forest of Dean much reduced in last week due to number of vessels usually employed in supplying Gloucester, Cheltenham, etc with coals from Staffordshire & Shropshire, prevented by floods and great scarcity of coals from their regular trade, having gone to Bullo & Lydney to load. As Colliers have in part, though not fully, returned to work no doubt soon be ample supply for which present great demand.
A person just come from Gloucester stating floods have abated sufficiently for vessels to navigate the Severn.
Bill intended to be brought into Parliament by Gloucester & Berkeley Canal Co. will require clause for giving notice to T&S Canal of their stopping navigation for purpose of intended works.
Obliged if you direct always to bring proper manifest of quantity shipped at Stoke. Salt being shipped, both long and short weight, also leaves us in continual doubt.
Effect of proposed Gloucester & Berkeley Canal Act applies equally to T&S as the Stroud Canal. Clauses to be added accordingly.
